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Andrea Jaruwalski
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Posted - 2006.07.15 22:10:00 -
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No thanks. PVP on TQ on non consentual. I like my ECM, I like my Dampeners, I like my Tracking disruptor. It's what make every little fight a bit more interesting and not just "This is a bigger gang and it will own my small gang".
Tournament is very boring to watch as it is, the thing that is fun to watch in it, is the tactics used to maintain the key ships (if any) alive to really dominate another.
EW has a part in eve, it's there to stay. It might get changed so it isn't a requirement for every fight to win. Where it doesn't even matter if you're more skilled than another and you die simply because you didn't fit jammer.
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Andrea Jaruwalski
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Posted - 2006.07.16 07:09:00 -
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Edited by: Andrea Jaruwalski on 16/07/2006 07:10:32
Originally by: Kaylana Syi The alliance tourney is a sneak peak on a clean environment for ships doing what they were meant to do. It would be representative of TQ combat if you can imagine that combat was taking place at a gate with well placed warp bubbles.
Remove ECM, You have tracking disrupting *****, Sensor dampening, fighting at range in 99% of the fights. An abuse of Recon ships, a whine about defender missile sucking, a lack of ways to defend yourself against missile boat.
A complete dream world. I know i do love to wonder about this, But.. Do you PVP at all, on a regular basis Kaylana? Do you want your PVP to become npcing-like?
I don't. I want to have advantage over my ennemy, but that doesn't always mean to jam them to death. There's alot of ways to come out on top, there's alot of ways to make sure you don't die.
I don't want eve to become one-sided, with never ending fights, the cookie cutter GANG TANKING god mode. The amazing tactics that require everyone in your gang to have the skill multitasking level 5!
EVE is about teamwork sure, it's about alot of things, but remove what gives your little corp of 10-15 the ability to take one more than they can chew and at least put up a fight and you have alot of annoying people because they can't field a 30 man gang that just sweeps thru everyone that isn't a 30 man gang and up.
EVE pvp is non consensual, Most combat in eve revolves around chokepoints, getting fights at gates.
Players have the tools to either run away from those fights, and players have the tool to FORCE them to fight and die.
ECM needs a fix, Alot lower strenght, while it might still revolve around luck, it would make all jamming specialised ships the same old primary target and the pain in the ass when 5-6 battleship are jammed.
The upcoming fix won't change anything when it comes to PVP, there's always losers and they will always whine that they got killed and even tho it might seem unfair, it's really just a game.
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Andrea Jaruwalski
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.07.19 11:12:00 -
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Edited by: Andrea Jaruwalski on 19/07/2006 11:12:21
Originally by: Jenny Spitfire
The Domi is actually a solo pwn mobile with a T1 price tag. It can tank, debuff and has enough DPS at the same time in this patch.
Rofl, WAIT, just WAIT!!! hahahaha, did you just say Debuff? oh my god..................... Says alot   
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Andrea Jaruwalski
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Posted - 2006.07.19 11:16:00 -
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Originally by: Jenny Spitfire
Originally by: Andrea Jaruwalski Edited by: Andrea Jaruwalski on 19/07/2006 11:12:21
Originally by: Jenny Spitfire
The Domi is actually a solo pwn mobile with a T1 price tag. It can tank, debuff and has enough DPS at the same time in this patch.
Rofl, WAIT, just WAIT!!! hahahaha, did you just say Debuff? oh my god..................... Says alot   
What is wrong about debuff? ECM, NOS, whatever in mids and high. 
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAH   
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Andrea Jaruwalski
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.07.19 11:23:00 -
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Originally by: Jenny Spitfire
Originally by: DarK GBTW Jenny:P
Sighs. It is a common glossary. All RPG or whatever are build on several ideas. Tank, gank, buff and debuff i.e. tankers, pure dmg dealers, logistics, EWARs. 
It's terms you'd use in a game like World of warcraft, not EVE.... That's why it made me laugh my ass off.
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Andrea Jaruwalski
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.07.19 11:29:00 -
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Edited by: Andrea Jaruwalski on 19/07/2006 11:29:05
Originally by: Jim McGregor
Originally by: Andrea Jaruwalski
Originally by: Jenny Spitfire
What is wrong about debuff? ECM, NOS, whatever in mids and high. 
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAH   
You really need to get out more if you find the wrong use of the word debuff that funny.
@Jenny: Debuff is when you remove a buff from someone.. like in WoW, if someone have given you extra hitpoints by putting a spell on you, someone else can "debuff" it by removing the spell.
You really need to get out more if "think" you can analyse me because i laugh at this.
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Andrea Jaruwalski
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.07.19 11:30:00 -
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Originally by: Jenny Spitfire
Originally by: Jim McGregor
Originally by: Jenny Spitfire
Semantically debuff has the same meaning. It means you cripple somebody.
I didnt know that...
To buff is to make something stronger, to debuff is the opposite.
Yea, I can just hear myself yelling BUFF ME on TS and everyone going WTF?
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Andrea Jaruwalski
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.07.19 11:31:00 -
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Originally by: Jim McGregor
Originally by: Andrea Jaruwalski
You really need to get out more if "think" you can analyse me because i laugh at this.
Lets both go to the pub tbh. 
Are you even allowed to drink in your country? Oh geez, look, I analysed youuuuuuu! 
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Andrea Jaruwalski
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.07.19 11:34:00 -
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Originally by: Jenny Spitfire
Originally by: Andrea Jaruwalski
Originally by: Jenny Spitfire
Originally by: Jim McGregor
Originally by: Jenny Spitfire
Semantically debuff has the same meaning. It means you cripple somebody.
I didnt know that...
To buff is to make something stronger, to debuff is the opposite.
Yea, I can just hear myself yelling BUFF ME on TS and everyone going WTF?
Cant be help if the mind doesnt tend to see beyond the wall.
Well, If maybe i played alot of 'fantasy' style MMORPG before EVE, i might have related to those terms, but i actually always hated them until i found this game, EVE.
I'd never use them in EVE, which is why it makes me laugh that you'd even use them to describe the dominix abilities..............
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Andrea Jaruwalski
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.07.19 11:36:00 -
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Originally by: DefilerCB will u please stick to the topic , i'm reading every post in this as i want to know about the most power tool in eve more and the last page is filled with everything but what the topic is.
There is no conclusion because people shouldn't make conclusions about it.
Tournament isn't what PVP is in EVE, and if you want it to be like that, QUIT NOW ahhhh..
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Andrea Jaruwalski
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.07.19 11:44:00 -
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Edited by: Andrea Jaruwalski on 19/07/2006 11:44:58
Originally by: Jenny Spitfire
Originally by: Andrea Jaruwalski
Originally by: Jenny Spitfire
Originally by: Andrea Jaruwalski you know, if you weren't refreshing this topic every 5 seconds, you might have noticed i edited my post to make it 'less BIG ARSE QUOTE like'.
And what have arse got to do in this thread?
See, Again, it took me 10 seconds to edit my post and you've already replies.
Shesh.
May be it is coincidence that I click to check my post and see your reply?
Quoting *****s is more the term i'd use for this... I'm done here tho, Buff, Debuff, not used in EVE AFAIK, if you use it, well poor Fleet/Gang.
Originally by: DefilerCB as far as my experience comes to EW when me and my friends pvp we always fit Eccm and it does work good. We also fit Ecm as the best defence is the offence and it works out good for us but that's in small gang , we never go solo ...
/please atleast stop quoting urself making 1 page long posts just to say something offtopic.
Quoting isn't against forum rules, now shush.
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